Friday, July 31, 2009



Friday, July 24, 2009

Astrological Prdictions July 09-4


Thursday, July 23, 2009


To days news papers bring the news that Rahul(ji) Gandhi made a surprise visit to an eating room near parliament house called Andhra Bhavan accompanied by one of his friend from Rajasthan.He quitely ordered fish,mutton,bread accompanied by coke and finally 4 jardha beedas!

Okay! Rahulji must have been bitten by the eating bug, like travel bug!It is purely a personal choice for him what to eat and what not to eat.However this trivial act of Rahulji gets the front page coverage in papers means,we can not ignore this as his personal matter.

First I want to tell him about the choice of the restaurant he chose to visit. It was Andhra Bhavan.That means spices, spices and spices all the way. The chilly hotness, Rahulji,you wanted to enjoy? Everything is harmful to your intestine Rahulji! May be you liked it in toungue, but did injustice to your digestive system.

Secondly, the non-veg food! Do you know how much it is harmful! How can you build a new building from the bricks and mortar of a pulled down old building?Likewise the dead animal can not give you any fresh energy or advantage. The cruelty to animals, before they cometo the table can not be described by words.The pathetic helpless animals undergo untold miseries.Have some sympathy. You have the name of Mahathmaji in your name as an appendage. practice non-violence atleast in food.Turn a vegan. It will be good to your health.

Thirdly coke! An iron nail will be dissolved by coke in 24 hours time if kept immersed in it.That much acidity! What it will make of your stomach if taken regularly, god only knows!

Fourth Jardha Beeda! They keep all sorts of spices including stimulents like abin!You like it Rahulji!?

Rahulji, I am concerned about your health and mental make up! India wants you. You are the muscot of youngIndia as your father was once.Would you not like to be a role model?

If you publically show off your obsessions , the charlatans will surround you and divert your attention to sensuous pleasures.

During the election campaign you went to the poor villagers and shared their humble, simple diet. I was touched. Your image was boosted by your going near the poor. Now, the election is over and no need for votes of the poor, you thought it is better to act like an aristocrat?

Sheer opportunism , Rahulji!.
I am pained.

Monday, July 20, 2009


Do you think Brahmins are Aryans who invaded through Kyber- pass? Do you still believe in that Aryan Invasion Theory(AIT) taught in your history classes when you were in high school?Do you know the other theory, Out of India Theory(OIT), advanced by many historians of world renown?
Aryan Invasion Theory (AIT) is disproved by evidences from a variety of disparate fields. I would recommend the book "The Invasion that never was" by Michel Danino that details several of the methods used to disprove AIT.
Except for the fanatics (that includes politically motivated secularists and "pseudo-historians" who write our history text-books), all academics and historians have dismissed AIT.
The name arya was used only to extend respect to elders and superiors.valient,noble,powerful were some of the meanings for arya.
-------------------------------- "It is important to examine the social and political implications of the Aryan invasion idea: 1. It served to divide India into a northern Aryan and southern Dravidian culture which were made hostile to each other. 2. It gave the British an excuse in their conquest of India. They could claim to be doing only what the Aryan ancestors of the Hindus had previously done millennia ago. 3. It served to make Vedic culture later than and possibly derived from Middle Eastern cultures. With the proximity and relationship of the latter with the Bible and Christianity, this kept the Hindu religion as a sidelight to the development of religion and civilization to the West. 4. It discredited not only the 'Vedas' but the genealogies of the 'Puranas' and their long list of the kings before Buddha like Rama and Krishna were left without any historical basis. The 'Mahabharata', instead of the great war, became a folk lore. In short, it discredited the most of the Hindu tradition and almost all its ancient literature. It turned its scriptures and sages into fantacies and exaggerations. 5. It served a social, political and economical purpose of domination, proving the superiority of Western culture and religion."

American Anthropological AssociationStatement on "Race"(May 17, 1998)
The following statement was adopted by the Executive Board of the American Anthropological Association, acting on a draft prepared by a committee of representative American anthropologists. It does not reflect a consensus of all members of the AAA, as individuals vary in their approaches to the study of "race." We believe that it represents generally the contemporary thinking and scholarly positions of a majority of anthropologists.

In the United States both scholars and the general public have been conditioned to viewing human races as natural and separate divisions within the human species based on visible physical differences. With the vast expansion of scientific knowledge in this century, however, it has become clear that human populations are not unambiguous, clearly demarcated, biologically distinct groups. Evidence from the analysis of genetics (e.g., DNA) indicates that most physical variation, about 94%, lies within so-called racial groups. Conventional geographic "racial" groupings differ from one another only in about 6% of their genes. This means that there is greater variation within "racial" groups than between them. In neighboring populations there is much overlapping of genes and their phenotypic (physical) expressions. Throughout history whenever different groups have come into contact, they have interbred. The continued sharing of genetic materials has maintained all of humankind as a single species.
Physical variations in any given trait tend to occur gradually rather than abruptly over geographic areas. And because physical traits are inherited independently of one another, knowing the range of one trait does not predict the presence of others. For example, skin color varies largely from light in the temperate areas in the north to dark in the tropical areas in the south; its intensity is not related to nose shape or hair texture. Dark skin may be associated with frizzy or kinky hair or curly or wavy or straight hair, all of which are found among different indigenous peoples in tropical regions. These facts render any attempt to establish lines of division among biological populations both arbitrary and subjective.
Historical research has shown that the idea of "race" has always carried more meanings than mere physical differences; indeed, physical variations in the human species have no meaning except the social ones that humans put on them. Today scholars in many fields argue that "race" as it is understood in the United States of America was a social mechanism invented during the 18th century to refer to those populations brought together in colonial America: the English and other European settlers, the conquered Indian peoples, and those peoples of Africa brought in to provide slave labor.
From its inception, this modern concept of "race" was modeled after an ancient theorem of the Great Chain of Being, which posited natural categories on a hierarchy established by God or nature. Thus "race" was a mode of classification linked specifically to peoples in the colonial situation. It subsumed a growing ideology of inequality devised to rationalize European attitudes and treatment of the conquered and enslaved peoples. Proponents of slavery in particular during the 19th century used "race" to justify the retention of slavery. The ideology magnified the differences among Europeans, Africans, and Indians, established a rigid hierarchy of socially exclusive categories underscored and bolstered unequal rank and status differences, and provided the rationalization that the inequality was natural or God-given. The different physical traits of African-Americans and Indians became markers or symbols of their status differences.
As they were constructing US society, leaders among European-Americans fabricated the cultural/behavioral characteristics associated with each "race," linking superior traits with Europeans and negative and inferior ones to blacks and Indians. Numerous arbitrary and fictitious beliefs about the different peoples were institutionalized and deeply embedded in American thought.
Early in the 19th century the growing fields of science began to reflect the public consciousness about human differences. Differences among the "racial" categories were projected to their greatest extreme when the argument was posed that Africans, Indians, and Europeans were separate species, with Africans the least human and closer taxonomically to apes.
Ultimately "race" as an ideology about human differences was subsequently spread to other areas of the world. It became a strategy for dividing, ranking, and controlling colonized people used by colonial powers everywhere. But it was not limited to the colonial situation. In the latter part of the 19th century it was employed by Europeans to rank one another and to justify social, economic, and political inequalities among their peoples. During World War II, the Nazis under Adolf Hitler enjoined the expanded ideology of "race" and "racial" differences and took them to a logical end: the extermination of 11 million people of "inferior races" (e.g., Jews, Gypsies, Africans, homosexuals, and so forth) and other unspeakable brutalities of the Holocaust.
"Race" thus evolved as a worldview, a body of prejudgments that distorts our ideas about human differences and group behavior. Racial beliefs constitute myths about the diversity in the human species and about the abilities and behavior of people homogenized into "racial" categories. The myths fused behavior and physical features together in the public mind, impeding our comprehension of both biological variations and cultural behavior, implying that both are genetically determined. Racial myths bear no relationship to the reality of human capabilities or behavior. Scientists today find that reliance on such folk beliefs about human differences in research has led to countless errors.
At the end of the 20th century, we now understand that human cultural behavior is learned, conditioned into infants beginning at birth, and always subject to modification. No human is born with a built-in culture or language. Our temperaments, dispositions, and personalities, regardless of genetic propensities, are developed within sets of meanings and values that we call "culture." Studies of infant and early childhood learning and behavior attest to the reality of our cultures in forming who we are.
It is a basic tenet of anthropological knowledge that all normal human beings have the capacity to learn any cultural behavior. The American experience with immigrants from hundreds of different language and cultural backgrounds who have acquired some version of American culture traits and behavior is the clearest evidence of this fact. Moreover, people of all physical variations have learned different cultural behaviors and continue to do so as modern transportation moves millions of immigrants around the world.
How people have been accepted and treated within the context of a given society or culture has a direct impact on how they perform in that society. The "racial" worldview was invented to assign some groups to perpetual low status, while others were permitted access to privilege, power, and wealth. The tragedy in the United States has been that the policies and practices stemming from this worldview succeeded all too well in constructing unequal populations among Europeans, Native Americans, and peoples of African descent. Given what we know about the capacity of normal humans to achieve and function within any culture, we conclude that present-day inequalities between so-called "racial" groups are not consequences of their biological inheritance but products of historical and contemporary social, economic, educational, and political circumstances
"The Indus valley culture was pronounced pre-Aryans for several reasons that were largely part of the cultural milieu of nineteenth century European thinking As scholars following Max Mullar had decided that the Aryans came into India around 1500 BC, since the Indus valley culture was earlier than this, they concluded that it had to be preAryan. Yet the rationale behind the late date for the Vedic culture given by Muller was totally speculative. Max Muller, like many of the Christian scholars of his era, believed in Biblical chronology. This placed the beginning of the world at 400 BC and the flood around 2500 BC. Assuming to those two dates, it became difficult to get the Aryans in India before 1500 BC.
Muller therefore assumed that the five layers of the four 'Vedas' & 'Upanishads' were each composed in 200 year periods before the Buddha at 500 BC. However, there are more changes of language in Vedic Sanskrit itself than there are in classical Sanskrit since Panini, also regarded as a figure of around 500 BC, or a period of 2500 years. Hence it is clear that each of these periods could have existed for any number of centuries and that the 200 year figure is totally arbitrary and is likely too short a figure."
Yet one of the loudest European voices against the whole Aryan construct was none other than Max Muller, one of its chief creators! In 1888, forty years after he had first hammered the concept of an Aryan race, he conceded that "the home of the Aryans" could not be pinpointed more precisely than "somewhere in Asia."
He flatly denied having ever spoken of an Aryan race:
"I have declared again and again that if I say Aryas, I mean neither blood nor bones, nor hair nor skull; I mean simply those who speak an Aryan language...To me an ethnologist who speaks of Aryan race, Aryan blood, Aryan eyes and hair, is a great a sinner as a linguist who speaks of a dolichocephalic dictionary or a brachycephalic grammar."
Max Muller also disowned the short chronology he himself had arbitrarily fixed for Indian scriptures, a chronology still in vogue today among Western Indologists
Swami Aksharananda holds a Ph.D. degree in Hindu Studies from the University of Madison, Wisconsin (USA) has observed:"Not even the Dravidian speaking peoples who are claimed to have lived in India before the supposed Aryan invasion have any memory of this alleged invasion. It is hard to imagine that both the “invading Aryans” and the “conquered native Dravidians” would conspire to eradicate from their collective memory every trace of the invasion and its consequences."
"This theory, given the manner in which it is being defended by its promoters, sounds more like a dogma serving a variety of political and ideological functions. It is invariably summoned into service to explain almost every traditional institution and social conflict in India. While the AIT is avidly and dogmatically advocated by some, in and out of India, the preponderant mass of the Indian population is blissfully unaware of this interpretation of their history. "
"Though it is now seen as heresy to do so, many scholars, both in the West and in the Indian sub-continent, have long challenged the AIT to be essentially a product of 19th century Eurocentric scholarship built on an edifice of speculation. Now with new tools of investigation, including computers and satellites, new discoveries are regularly made and we are in a position to intern the AIT myth, once and for all, among the greatest hoaxes of history. It will require the chipping away of the Aryan Invasion Theory which according to a Cambridge anthropologist, Edmund Leach, is like cutting down a 300-year-old oak tree with a penknife. But it’s a work that has to be done. Ultimately, it will require nothing less than the total overhaul of Indian history. "
"The Vedic Age is dated from around 7000 BC to 3000 BC. Now, if the Rig Veda mentions the Saraswati, that dates long before 3000 BC, then the Vedas would have been in existence prior to 3000 BC…which is the period of the Mahabharata. This mighty river, over seven kilometers wide, flowed from the Himalayas through the western deserts and into the ocean. When this river dried up, as has been proven by satellite images, it is logical to assume that the people who lived on its banks were forced to move elsewhere. During the time of the Pandavas and Kauravas, the mighty Saraswati is referred to as a ‘dying’ river. It is the drying up of this river and not an invading race that led to the decline and subsequent disappearance of the civilization"
The Case Against the AIT-- SUDHEER BANDODKAR
"There are conflicting theories of the origin of the Aryans regarding their geographical placement and chronology. There is one school that believes that the Aryans originated in India - hence the name Indo-Aryan or Indo-European.
One finding that lends credence to India being the original home of the Aryans is the observations of Nakshatras (star patterns of the Zodiac) that are mentioned in the Vedas, and the Upanishads, which according to modern astronomical techniques are supposed to have existed around 7000 B.C.E. to 9000 B.C.E. This would mean that those who made those observations had not only developed the keen sense of observing and noting down what they saw in the skies, but that they lived in between 7000 B.C.E. and 9000 B.C.E. This pushes back the age of Indian civilization to a much older date than that of the Mesopotemian and Egyptian civilizations which are generally considered to be the birthplaces of human civilization.
Another finding used to support India being the original home of the Aryans is the deciphering of the script of the Saraswati Sindhu valley civilization to be in fact Sanskrit. This is also used to support the theory that the founders of this civilization were in fact Sanskrit speakers. Sanskrit is the language of the Aryans. Thus if the founders of the Saraswati Sindhu Valley civilization spoke and wrote in Sanskrit, then they must be Aryans. This point is used to support the theory that India is the original home of the Aryans.
Thus it was from India, which according to this school, was the cradle of civilization, the Aryans spread all over the globe. And as India was the original home of the Aryans the AIT (Aryan Invasion Theory of India) stands disproved. But for our discussion, it is irrelevant as to where and exactly when the Aryans originated. It is sufficient to say that they followed a certain way of life in which the caste system was born in an embryonic state and then evolved to ultimately reach its present form."
"some recent archeological discoveries in India, Russia and Japan have pushed back the antiquity of the Aryans to at least 6000BC and proved beyond doubt that the ancient Aryans were not nomadic tribes from central Asia but had very advanced urban civilizations. Russian archeologists and linguists also proved that the Aryans have migrated not from the Russian steppes but came to Russia via Armenia and Georgia. There are increasing evidence that India was the original home of the Aryans.
Max Müller is often identified as the first writer to speak of an Aryan "race" in English. In his Lectures on the Science of Language in 1861 he referred to Aryans as a race of people. However, when this was interpreted to imply a biologically distinct sub-group of humanity, he soon clarified that he simply meant a line of descent, insisting that it was very dangerous to mix linguistics and anthropology. "The Science of Language and the Science of Man cannot be kept too much asunder…I must repeat what I have said many times before, it would be wrong to speak of Aryan blood as of dolichocephalic grammar". He restated his opposition to this method in 1888 in his essay Biographies of words and the home of the Aryas
------------------"That the archaeological record and ancient oral and literate traditions of South Asia (ie. the Vedic tradition) are now converging has significant implications for regional cultural history. A few scholars have proposed that there is nothing in the 'literature' firmly placing the Indo-Aryans, the generally perceived founders of the modern South Asian cultural tradition(s), outside of South Asia, and now the archaeological record is confirming this.
Within the context of cultural continuity described here, an archaeologically significant indigenous discontinuity occurs due to ecological factors (ie. the drying up of the Sarasvati river). This cultural discontinuity was a regional population shift from the Indus Valley, in the west, to locations east and southeast, a phenomenon also recorded in ancient oral (ie. Vedic) traditions. As data accumulates to support cultural continuity in South Asian prehistoric and historic periods, a considerable restructuring of existing interpretive paradigms must take place. We reject most strongly the simplistic historical interpretations, which date back to the eighteenth century, that continue to be imposed on South Asian culture history. These still prevailing interpretations are significantly diminished by European ethnocentrism, colonialism, racism, and antisemitism. Surely, as South Asian studies approaches the twenty-first century, it is time to describe emerging data objectively rather than perpetuate interpretations without regard to the data archaeologists have worked so hard to reveal."
Is this the statement of a Hindu political ideologue? No, it is by a noted Western archaeologist specializing in ancient India, James Schaffer of Case Western University, who has nothing to do with Hindutva or even Hindu spirituality. It is part of his new article Migration, Philology and South Asian Archaeology soon to appear in Aryan and Non-Aryan in South Asia: Evidence, Interpretation and History, edited by J. Bronkhorst and M. Deshpande, University of Michigan Press 1998.
One of the major reasons why a consideration of the idea of an Aryan invasion into India is prevalent among some Western researchers is because of their misinterpretation of the Vedas, deliberate or otherwise, that suggests the Aryans were a nomadic people. One such misinterpretation is from the Rig-veda, which describes the battle between Sudas and the ten kings. The battle of the ten kings included the Pakthas, Bhalanas, Alinas, Shivas, Vishanins, Shimyus, Bhrigus, Druhyas, Prithus, and Parshus, who fought against the Tritsus. The Prithus or Parthavas became the Parthians of latter-day Iran (247 B.C.–224 A.D.). The Parshus or Pashavas became the latter-day Persians. These kings, though some are described as Aryans, were actually fallen Aryans, or rebellious and materialistic kings who had given up the spiritual path and were conquered by Sudas. Occasionally, there was a degeneration of the spiritual kingdom in areas of India, and wars had to be fought in order to reestablish the spiritual Aryan culture in these areas. Western scholars could and did easily misinterpret this to mean an invasion of nomadic people called Aryans rather than simply a war in which the superior Aryan kings reestablished the spiritual values and the Vedic Aryan way of life.
Let us also remember that the Aryan invasion theory was hypothesized in the nineteenth century to explain the similarities found in Sanskrit and the languages of Europe. One person who reported about this is Deen Chandora in his article, Distorted Historical Events and Discredited Hindu Chronology, as it appeared in Revisiting Indus-Sarasvati Age and Ancient India (p. 383). He explains that the idea of the Aryan invasion was certainly not a matter of misguided research, but was a conspiracy to distribute deliberate misinformation that was formulated on April 10, 1866 in London at a secret meeting held in the Royal Asiatic Society. This was “to induct the theory of the Aryan invasion of India, so that no Indian may say that English are foreigners. . . India was ruled all along by outsiders and so the country must remain a slave under the benign Christian rule.” This was a political move and this theory was put to solid use in all schools and colleges.
He concluded: "the Brahmins and the Untouchables belong to the same race."Only one among our great political leaders saw through the hollowness of the Aryan theory. In his book Who were the Shudras? in 1946 B. R. Ambedkar famous for his work on the Indian Constitution, as well as his campaign in support of the Harijans, studied the Vedas. He devoted a complete chapter - Shudras versus Aryans -to an examination of the issue. Citing extensively the Vedic sources which suggest that the distinction between an Arya and Dasa/Dasyu was not a racial distinction of color and physiognomy and thus the origin of Sudra could not have anything to do with race, Ambedkar conclusion are unequivocal, though regrettably they are largely ignored. This is what he said:"The theory of invasion is an invention. This invention is necessary because of a gratuitous assumption that the Indo-Germanic people are the purest of the modern representation of the original Aryan race. The theory is perversion of scientific investigation. It is not allowed to evolve out of facts. On the contrary, the theory is preconceived and facts are selected to prove it. It falls to the ground at every point. ' Dr. Ambedkar concludes:"The Vedas do not know any such race as the Aryan race.There is no evidence in the Vedas of any invasion of India by the Aryan race and its having conquered the Dasas and Dasyus supposed to be the natives of India.There is no evidence to show that the distinction between Aryans, Dasas and Dasyus was a racial distinction.The Vedas do not support the contention that the Aryans were different in color from the Dasas and Dasyus.....""If anthropometry is a science which can be depended upon to determine the race of a people...(then its) measurements establish that the Brahmins and the Untouchables belong to the same race. From this it follows that if the Brahmins are Aryans the Untouchables are also Aryans. If the Brahmins are Dravidians, the Untouchables are also Dravidians...."Ambedkar was aware of the hold of this theory over the masses and scholars alike. He offered a succinct explanation. "why the Aryan race theory is not dead because of the general insistence by European scholars that the word varna, means color and the acceptance of that view by a majority...""The British were visualized as being the last of the invaders in a chain beginning with the Aryans. He could clearly see the implications of such ill-founded hypotheses which colonial Indology imposed on India and which Indian scholars went on repeating ad nauseam. (source: The Invasion That Never Was - By Michel Danino and Sujata Nahar and Dr. Babasaheb Ambedkar Writings and Speeches. Reprint of Pakistan or The Partition of India. Education Department. Government of Maharashtra 1990 Vol. 7 p.302). Refer to chapter on First Indologists and European Imperialism.

Racial Theories
"Nineteenth century was the era of Europeans imperialism. Many Europeans did in fact believe that they belonged to a superior race and that their religion, Christianity, was a superior religion and all other religions were barbaric, particularly a religion like Hinduism which uses many idols. The Europeans felt that it was their duty to convert non-Christians, sometimes even if it required intimidation, force or bribery.
Europeans thinkers of the era were dominated by a racial theory of man, which was interpreted primarily in terms of color. They saw themselves as belonging to a superior 'white' or Caucasian race. They had enslaved the Negroid or 'black' race. As Hindus were also dark or 'colored', they were similarly deemed inferior. The British thus, not surprisingly, looked upon the culture of India in a similar way as having been a land of a light-skinned or Aryan race (the north Indians), ruling a dark or Dravidian race (the south Indians).
About this time in history the similarities betweeen Indo-European languages also became evident. Sanskrit and the languages of North India were found to be relatives of the languages of Europe, while the Dravidian languages of south India were found to be another language family. By the racial theory, Europeans natuarally felt that the original speakers of any root Indo-European language must have been 'white', as they were not prepared to recognize that their languages could have been derived from the darker-skinned Hindus. As all Hindus were dark compared to the Europeans, it was assumed that the original white Indo-European invadors of India must have been assimilated by the dark indigenous population, though they left their mark more on north India where people have a lighter complexion.
Though the Nazis later took this idea of a white Aryan superior race to its extreme of brutality, they did not invent the idea, nor were they the only ones to use it for purposes of exploitation. They took what was a common idea of nineteenth and early twentieth century Europe, which many other Europeans shared. They perverted this idea further, but the distortion of it was already the basis of much exploitation and misunderstanding."------------DAVD FRAWLEY
AIT and the anti-national forces-There are quite a few cases worldwide of late-medieval and modem history having repercussions on contemporary politics, witness the role of bad memories in ex-Yugoslavia. By contrast, I do not know of any question of ancient history which is as loaded with actual political significance as is the AIT in India. The AIT was turned into a political tool in order to question the Indian identity of the Indians, and thereby weaken the claims of Indians to their own country. This political use of the AIT continues till today, especially at the hands of what Hindu nationalists call ?the anti-national forces?. Christian ?liberation theologians?, Islamic missionaries, assorted separatists and like-minded anti-Hindu or anti-India activists are still highlighting the AIT in order to:
1) Mobilize lower-caste people, supposedly the subdued natives forced into the Apartheid prison house of caste by the invaders, against the upper-caste people, supposedly the progeny of the invading Aryans. All this propaganda is carried out in the name of the low-caste leader Dr. B.R. Ambedkar, eventhough Ambedkar himself had strongly rejected the AIT and the notion that caste status has a racial origin: European students of caste , themselves impregnated by colour prejudices, very readily imagined it to be the chief factor in the Caste problem. But nothing can be farther from the truth, and Dr. Ketkar is right when he insists that all the princes whether they belonged to the so-called Aryan race or to the so-called Dravidian race, were Aryas. Whether a tribe or a family was racially Aryan or Dravidian was a question which never troubled the people of India until foreign scholars came in and began to draw the line.
2) Mobilize Dravidian-speakers against speakers of IE languages, esp. through the Dravidian separatist movement which was started under British patronage in 1916 as the Justice Party, later refounded as the Dravida Kazhagam, and which reached its peak in the 1950s. One of its gimmicks was the glorification of the black Dravidian hero Ravana against the white Aryan hero Rama, disregarding the Ramayana information that Ravana was actually an Aryan coloniser of Sri Lanka and a performer of Vedic rituals, while Rama was dark-skinned.33 Its most consequential success was the sabotage (masterminded by the English-speaking elite in Delhi, not in the Dravidians but in its own interest) of the implementation of the Constitutional provision that Hindi, a North-Indian IE language, replace English as official language by 1965.
3) Mobilize the tribals, who have been given the new name ?aboriginals? (AdivAsI) as part of this strategy, against the non-tribals, who are to be treated on a par with the European invaders of America and Australia. This in spite of the demonstrable foreign (East-Asian) origin of the Munda and Tibeto-Burmese languages spoken by the most vocal tribes.
4) Mobilize Indian politicians towards delegitimizing Sanskrit, that foreign language brought by the Aryan invaders, as India's culture language and as a school subject, in order to further dehinduize India and weaken her cultural unity: Sanskrit should be deleted from the Eighth Schedule of the Constitution because it is a foreign language brought to the country by foreign invaders - the Aryans!!
5) Mobilize world opinion against the Aryans, meaning the Hindus, since they are theAryan invaders who imposed the caste system as a kind of Apartheid to preserve their racial purity and dominance, never mind the fact that the association of Aryan? with race is a strictly European invention unknown to Hindu tradition. Now that ?idolater? and heathen have lost their force as swearwords, racist is a brilliant new way of demonizing Hinduism.
Implication of Aryan Invasion Theory-
-------------------------------------------According to Belgian scholar Koenraad Elst (1959 -) Dutch historian, born in Leuven, Belgium:"The Aryan invasion theory was used to prove that Hindus were ultimately foreigners, exactly like their "Aryan cousins" the British. This alleged foreign origin of Hinduism is widely used to delegitimize the Hindu claim on India, and back then it was also used by the British and by their Indian loyalists to justify colonization. By showing that the Hindus are mere upstarts and squatters on the land (as they themselves are in America, Australia and other places), they can set up their own claim. For then neither the Hindus nor the Europeans are indigenous and as to who should possess this land, becomes merely a matter of superior might..
For the British, it seems illogical that a backward country like India, badly in need of the White Man's civilizing mission could have brought forth the superior European culture. "Decidedly, the English did not want to affiliate themselves to "Mother India."
In this period, race theories conquered the intellectual scene, fitting neatly with the Europe-to-India scenario for the spread of Indo-European. It all fell into place: the Aryans had been white Nordic people who, with their inborn superiority, had developed a culture and technology which allowed them to subdue less advanced races: dark haired Mediterraneans and West-Asians, and dark-skinned invaders from Europe formed a complete case study of all that the upcoming racist worldview stood for.
British colonialism immediately put the emerging Aryan vision at the service of its propaganda, viz to tell the Indians that colonization by the British Aryans was but a second instance of the Aryan invasion which had made India into what it was; and that the Raj was nothing but a reunification of the oldest and the brightest branch of the Aryan family. Thus in his famous speech in 1862, Samuel Laing, Finance Minister of the Government of India, rejoiced that "the two races so long separated meet once more", though now "the younger brother has become the stronger, and takes his place as the head and protector of the family", coming to India "on a sacred mission, to stretch out the right hand of aid to our weaker brother, who once far out-stripped us, but has now fallen behind in the race."
While on one hand wooing the upper castes and North Indians with this Aryan rhetoric, the British along with the Christian missionaries also used the Aryan theory to pit the lower castes and South Indians, supposedly the progeny of the victimized non-Aryan natives, against their "Aryan fellow-countrymen. Contrary to the freedom movement, the anti-Brahmin and Dravidian movements were the fruits of British patronage. "
Sri. S.V .Sekar is a Tamil drama trouper and a small time cine actor.His name is famous as a comedian.He had the urge to" serve" people. So he joined the All India Anna Dravida Munnetra Kazhagam and managed to get the Mylapore assembly constituency. He won by his community vote, that is ,Brahmin votes.Emboldened by this, he started a Feeration of Brahmins' Association(FEBAS) over the heads of already existing Tamil Nadu Brahmins Association(TAMBRAS). Now S .V. Sekar has fallen from the grace of party boss Selvi J. Jayalalitha. He acts as if he is an independent member of the assembly.
So much so good. My concern is S.V. Sekar had been reported as telling that he is in pressure to start a political party to be named as " Aryan Mmunnetra Kazhagam"(Aryan progressive party). Here comes my concern. Are we Aryans who came thruogh the Kyber pass? I have compiled many sayings about this. THE MISTAKE NOW S.V. Sekar TRYING TO DO WAS EARLIER DONE BY ONE SECTION OF THE BRAHMIN COMMUNITY.THAT WAS WHEN HITLER CLAIMED HIMSELF BELONGING TO A SUPERIOR ARYAN RACE! THE BRAHMINS FROM INDIA, SOME OF THEM --NOT ALL,BLINDLY ECHOED THE HITLER'S VOICE.THEY ASSUMED AN IMAGENERY SUPERIOR RACE CALLED ARYAN! THEN FURTHER RESEACH AND ADMISSION OF DR. MAX MULLER HIMSELF, THAT HE MEANT ONLY A LANGUAGE GROUP AND NOT ANY RACE, THE BRAHMINS OF INDIA SLOWLY BACKED OUT.

Sunday, July 19, 2009


"அ) இன்றைய தனியார் துறையில் அன்டர்கிரவுன்ட் வேலை செய்ய முடியாது ஆ) சரக்கு இருப்பவர் எந்த சாதியினராயினும் அவர் முன்னேற்றத்தை தடுக்க முடியாது. எ. கா : ஒரு பெரிய தனியார் கைபேசி சேவை நிறுவனம். ஒரு டிப்பார்ட்மென்டில் : ஒரு வி.பி, ஒரு ஜி.எம், மூணு மேனேஜர்கள் (அடியேனும்), இரண்டு உதவி மேனேஜர்கள். ஒரு மேனேஜர் இஸ்லாமியர், ஒரு உ.மே பிராமணர் அல்லாதவர். இன்றைய நிலை : வி.பி ரிட்டயர்ட் ; ஜி.எம் பாவம் இப்போ சத்யம் , அடியேனும் ஒரு உ.மேவும் வேற நிறுவனம் , இன்னொரு மேனேஜரும் எஸ்கேப். அந்த பிராமண அல்லாத உ.மே. இப்போது உதவி ஜி.எம். அவரது சம்பளம் மூன்று ஆண்டுகளில் 300% உயர்வு. அடுத்த வருடம் ஜி.எம் ஆகி விடுவார். காரணம் அவரது திறமை. டெலிகாம் பில்லிங்கில் புலி. சாதி இல்லை. இன்றும் என்னுடைய மிகச்சிறந்த நண்பர். மகா கஞ்சன். இன்னும் எங்களுக்கு தண்ணி பார்ட்டி வைக்கலேன்னா---------------------------------------------------------------------- பார்த்துக்கோங்களேன்."------------------------------ I TOOK THE ABOVE STATEMENT FROM gentlleman who wrote the above appears to be a Tamil Brahmin.His language and the punch, content says so.My point is, he wants " thanni party"(liquor party) from his non- Brahmin miserly friend.Is it okay for you if Brahmins drink liquor?Is it progressiveness?
"The HeartOver time, alcohol consumption can lead to atrial fibrillation, whereby the smaller chambers of the heart fail to contract properly and may harbour potentially-dangerous blood clots. Chronic drinkers are thus more prone to both heart disease and stroke, and are at a higher risk of sudden death due to heart failure, especially during a drinking session"
"Alcohol is a potent central nervous system depressant. It has large number of side effect. Alcohol intake not only affects the one part of the body its bad effects reaches to the whole body.When a person drinks alcohol, the alcohol is absorbed by the stomach, enters the bloodstream, and goes to all the tissues. The effects of alcohol are dependent on a variety of factors, including a person’s size, weight, age, and sex, as well as the amount of food and alcohol consumed.Effects When you drink alcohol it affects the body. It instantly has a depressant effect. Some of bad effects of alcohol on body are mentioned below:• Heart- Alcohol increases the workload of heart that results to irregular heartbeat and high blood pressure efficiency of pumping blood is also affected. Blood flow in the whole body. High level of alcohol may results in irregular heart rhythms, shortness of breath and also cardiac failure.• Eyes- Alcohol causes blurred vision. Eyes became unable to see anything clear after having high amount of alcohol.• Sleep- Alcohol affects mostly the sleep. Alcohol may cause of easy sleep but it affects the sleep quality. It leads to later part of sleep cycle and in some cases it results to early wakeup. Without sleep you can’t feel relaxed and it gives way to many mental problems.• Kidneys- Alcohol can stop the proper functioning of kidneys. Kidney maintains a proper functioning of body fluids and minerals if there is no proper supply of minerals that means no proper energy.• Pancreas And Gut- If the intake of alcohol increased in body it can irritate the lining of the gut. Sometimes pancreas become inflamed chronically. This gives way to severe pain.After having knowledge of above mentioned effects of alcohol on the body, everybody should say good bye to alcohol.The disinheriting effect of alcohol is one of the main reasons it is used in so many social situations. Other effects of moderate alcohol intake include dizziness and talkativeness; the immediate effects of a larger amount of alcohol include slurred speech, disturbed sleep, nausea, and vomiting. Alcohol, even at low doses, significantly impairs the judgment and coordination required to drive a car safely. Low to moderate doses of alcohol can also increase the incidence of a variety of aggressive acts, including domestic violence and child abuse. Hangovers are another possible effect after large amounts of alcohol are consumed; a hangover consists of headache, nausea, thirst, dizziness, and fatigue"
Alcohol affects everyone's health in different ways - but the good things are still outweighed by the bad.
Mind and emotions:
Alcohol is a drug that depresses the brain. We all know the cheeriness that can come with the first drink, but alcohol can actually cause severe depression. 'Letting go', another effect which can initially be pleasant, gets some of us into difficulties, because when our petty or angry side gets exaggerated by alcohol, friendships or marriages can be threatened.
Does alcohol improve sex?
Alcohol can certainly increase our desire and, by reducing tension, enhance our enjoyment. In men however, large doses of alcohol block the nerves necessary for erection. If this happens once or twice, a man can become worried about his sexual ability - which is a sure way to impair erections from then on - unless confidence is re-established with a sympathetic partner. In addition, the loss of inhibition that accompanies alcohol intake can lead to a failure to consider the need to practice safe sex, by using a condom. Not using a condom has potentially devastating consequences - whether it be an unwanted pregnancy or a sexually transmitted disease such as chlamydia or HIV.
Hidden physical effects:
Some effects of alcohol on the body are obvious - such as a deterioration in complexion, and the nausea and headache that can accompany a hangover. However, if you are a heavy drinker, think about what you are doing to the parts of your body that you can't see. Liver disease is one of the more common diseases linked with a high alcohol intake - it can cause varicose veins in the stomach lining which may have been swelling up due to liver blockage to suddenly burst, and the bleeding can be very difficult to stop. Only a blood test can really reveal when the liver is under strain.
Alcohol is a depressant, which slows down the central nervous system and can cause drowsiness, relieve pain and induce sleep. - Drinker experiences mild euphoria and loss of inhibition as alcohol impairs region of the brain controlling behavior and emotions. Alcohol impairs behavior, judgment, memory, concentration and coordination (shortened attention span, impaired problem solving abilities), as well as inducing extreme mood swings and emotional outbursts. - Alcohol acts as a sedative on the central nervous system, depressing the nerve cells in the brain, dulling, altering and damaging their ability to respond appropriately. Large doses cause sleep, anesthesia, respiratory failure, coma and death.- Impaired or distorted visual ability and hearing (affects ability to distinguish between sounds and perceive the direction they are coming from) ; dulled smell and taste (reducing the desire to eat) and loss of pain perception; altered sense of time and space- Impairs fine motor skills, and slows reactions.- Numbness and tingling in the arms and legs caused by nerve damage from depletion of thiamine (B vitamin); when severe, can damage other nerve endings, causing staggering, etc. (Wernicke's Encephalopathy). - Long term drinking may result in permanent brain damage (Korsakoff's Syndrome or 'wet brain'), serious mental disorders, and addiction to alcohol.
Lowered resistance to infection.- High amounts of alcohol may cause breathing to stop, then death.
Chronic heavy drinking may cause alcoholic hepatitis (inflammation and destruction of liver cells) and then cirrhosis (irreversible lesions, scarring, and destruction of liver cells). Impairs the liver's ability to remove yellow pigment, and skin appears yellow (jaundice). - Liver damage causes fluid to build in extremities (Edema).- Decreases production of blood-clotting factors; may cause uncontrolled bleeding- Liver accumulates fat which can cause liver failure (“alcoholic fatty liver”), coma and death.
Male and Female- Sexual functioning can be impaired and deteriorate, resulting in impotence and infertility, sometimes irreversible. Females also have a high risk of developing breast cancer. - In men, may lead to sterility, atrophy of the testes and enlargement of the breasts.- Early menopause and menstrual irregularities are common in women who drink excessively.- Drinking during pregnancy significantly increases chance of delivering a baby with Fetal Alcohol Syndrome; small head, possible brain damage, abnormal facial features, poor muscle tone, speech and sleep disorders, and retarded growth and development.
Weakens the heart muscle and ability to pump blood (Cardiomyopathy).- Abnormal heart signals, irregular heart beat and heart enlargement.- Increases blood pressure, risk of heart attack and stroke.- Inhibits production of both red and white blood cells
Due to lower phosphate, muscles become weaker and atrophy; pain, spasms and tenderness. STOMACH/INTESTINAL/DIGESTIVE
Irritation and damage of esophagus lining, induces severe vomiting, hemorrhaging, pain and difficulty swallowing. Can contribute to throat cancer. - Irritation of stomach lining, can cause peptic ulcers, inflammation, bleeding lesions and cancer. Minute blood loss may deplete the body's iron stores, causing irritability, lack of energy, headaches and dizziness. - The pancreas becomes stressed from having to create insulin to process the sugar present in alcohol. This creates a significant risk of pancreatitis, a chronic inflammation that can be fatal. - rly menopause and menstrual irregularities are common in women who drink excessively. of sugar in alcohol. n severe, - Irritation of the intestinal tract lining and the colon- Nausea, diarrhea, vomiting, sweating and loss of appetite are common. - Alcohol impairs the small intestine's ability to process nutrients and vitamins.- Chronic drinking may result in inflammation, ulcers, and cancers of the intestines and colon
Alcohol interferes with the body's ability to absorb calcium, resulting in bones being weak, soft, brittle and thinner (Osteoporosis)
Harmful effects of alcohol
The long-term harmful effects of alcohol abuse on the body are also great. Fifty percent of chronic liver disease is caused by alcohol abuse. Alcohol is also associated with many other diseases, including pancreatitis, cardiomyopathy, peripheral neuropathy, dementia and other central nervous system disorders, and the fetal alcohol syndrome. Alcohol abuse is associated with cancers of the alimentary and respiratory tracts and possibly with breast cancer. High amounts of alcohol or long-term ingestion increase insulin resistance, triglyceride levels, blood pressure and all-cause mortality. Binges may result in arrhythmias. Alcoholics have elevated levels of plasma homocysteine, which has been linked to premature vascular disease" DR.RACHEL HAJAR,MD, FACC

Worried?If you're worried about the ill effects of drinking too much, start by asking yourself the following questions:Do you ever feel that you should cut down on your drinking?Do you ever become annoyed if people criticise you for drinking?Do you ever feel guilty about your drinking habits?Do you need an eye-opener in the mornings to clear a hangover or to steady your nerves?This is known as the CAGE questionnaire1, and three-quarters of those who answer 'yes' to two or more questions will have an alcohol problem. If you find you have a score of two or more, you should consider talking to your doctor about your concerns. The same goes if you exceed the recommended daily limit2 almost every single day, or if you are admitted to hospital with an alcohol-related problem - these two factors form part of a longer test called the Paddington Alcohol Test.

"May cause DROWSINESS. ALCOHOL may intensify this effect. USECARE when operating a car or dangerous machinery."
You’ve probably seen this warning on medicines you’ve taken. The danger is real. Mixing alcohol with certain medications can cause nausea and vomiting, headaches, drowsiness, fainting, or loss of coordination. It also can put you at risk for internal bleeding, heart problems, and difficulties in breathing. In addition to these dangers, alcohol can make a medication less effective or even useless, or it may make the medication harmful or toxic to your body.Some medicines that you might never have suspected can react with alcohol, including many medications which can be purchased “over-the-counter”—that is, without a prescription. Even some herbal remedies can have harmfuleffects when combined with alcohol.Medications are safe and effective when used appropriately. Your pharmacist or other health care provider can help you determine which medications interact harmfully with alcohol.

Did You Know…
Mixing alcohol and medicines can be harmful. Alcohol, like some medicines, can make you sleepy, drowsy, or lightheaded. Drinking alcohol while taking medicinescan intensify these effects. You may have trouble concentrating or performing mechanical skills. Small amounts of alcohol can make it dangerous to drive, and when you mix alcohol with certain medicines you put yourself at even greater risk. Combining alcohol with some medicines can lead to falls and serious injuries, especially among older people.Medicines may have many ingredientsSome medications—including many popular painkillers and cough, cold, and allergy remedies—contain more than one ingredient that can react with alcohol. Read the label on the medication bottle to find out exactly what ingredientsa medicine contains. Ask your pharmacist if you have any questions about how alcohol might interact with a drug you are taking.Some medicines contain alcoholCertain medicines contain up to 10 percent alcohol. Cough syrup and laxatives may have some of the highest alcohol concentrations.2Alcohol affects women differentlyWomen, in general, have a higher risk for problems than men. When a woman drinks, the alcohol in her bloodstream typically reaches a higher level than a man’s even if both are drinking the same amount. This is because women’s bodies generally have less water than men’s bodies. Because alcohol mixes with body water, a given amount of alcohol is more concentrated in a woman’s body than in a man’s. As a result, women are more susceptible to alcohol-related damage to organs such as the liver.Older people face greater riskOlder people are at particularly high risk for harmful alcohol– medication interactions. Aging slows the body’s ability to break down alcohol, so alcohol remains in a person’s system longer. Older people also are more likely to take a medication that interacts with alcohol—in fact, they often need to take more than one of these medications.

Timing is important
Alcohol and medicines can interact harmfully even if they are not taken at the same time.
Mixing alcohol and medicines puts you at risk for dangerousreactions. Protect yourself by avoiding alcohol if you are taking a medication and don’t know its effect. To learn more about a medicine and whether it will interact with alcohol, talk to


Veg or Nonveg?
Here I start a new thread and fresh topic.We,TamilBrahmins are traditionally veg eaters. As we are used to take milk, curd,butter,ghee etc., we are not pure vegitarians. But we are classified as lacto-vegitariens. Now a days I hear many youngsters of our community have taken to non-veg practice.My question is," are we to ignore this trend?"
"...I was too conservative and brahminical to have tried meat. Most crucially, I was not politically conscious those days. Not liking the idea of my partner having to buy oily meat from hotels, I decided that I would at least cook it at home. Soon, I began tasting it. Over the years, I have come to really enjoy it and realise what I had been missing all these years. What really got me hooked to the taste of meat was my liking for kebabs—burnt mutton. (In 2003, I also savoured succulent beef kebabs at Bade Miyan in Mumbai thanks to my friend Sharmila.) Since 2001, I have turned quite a decent meat-eater. Yet, nonbrahmin friends would point to how I am a bit clumsy in my inability to clean up the bones dry. Today, we cook mutton, beef, all kinds of seafood and chicken at home. I have not yet conquered pork, though I love bacon the way it is served continental style."--This is a copy paste from the thread ""
The above writer, Mr. Ananth is a journalist and an Iyengar by birth named S.Anand. I am told Mr.Anand is not an isolated case.Would you like to comment on this? This trend among Brahmins good or bad? Is this progressive?
Sudarshana.gemini's reply to Mr.S.ANAND
".. your basis for eating meat stems from you not wanting to relate to your brahmin identity. That is no way reletd to any kind of forward outlook.As vegetarianism is afterall at the end of the day a more civilised way of living. The reasons for that are obvious.And besides one community noteating meat brings a balance to the system and works to the advantage"
The point is our new generation youngsters seem to be confused. We have to talk to them scientifically. We have to tell them there is no "progressiveness" in switching over to non-veg.
"There are several reasons why it's a good idea to become a vegan - from abstaining from cruelty to animals, a lighter footprint on the environment to reducing our share of intake so that more people can have the minimum food to survive - the reasons are many. There are also many reasons why eating meat is a bad idea.Here's something you have probably never thought about: when you say that you enjoy the taste of meat, what you are really enjoying is the spices and the salt that's used to cook the meat. True, some people like the texture of the meat, and yes, animal fats such as butter and cheese have some kind of taste to them. But, by understanding the fact that the so-called "taste" of meat actually comes from the spices used (in fact, that's one reason Europeans were desperate to find trading routes to India - because meat would be horrible to eat without the salt and the spices). Please do yourself a favor and try and get a copy of the book "Beyond Beef" by Jeremy Rifkin. As a NON-BRAHMIN,NON-DALIT and someone who used to enjoy "delicious" meat in my earlier years, I can say from my experience in the last 23 years that I haven't missed anything by becoming a vegetarian first, and a vegan soon after"
Krikum said...
It is good thought initiated. irrespective of the community vegetarian is best food. Even mutton eating lions eat only herbevores animals.
When you look at the comparison between herbivores and humans, we compare much more closely to herbivores than meat eating animals. Humans are clearly not designed to digest and ingest meat.Meat-eaters: have clawsHerbivores: no clawsHumans: no claws Meat-eaters: have no skin pores and perspire through the tongueHerbivores: perspire through skin poresHumans: perspire through skin pores Meat-eaters: have sharp front teeth for tearing, with no flat molar teeth for grindingHerbivores: no sharp front teeth, but flat rear molars for grindingHumans: no sharp front teeth, but flat rear molars for grinding Meat-eaters: have intestinal tract that is only 3 times their body length so that rapidly decaying meat can pass through quicklyHerbivores: have intestinal tract 10-12 times their body length.Humans: have intestinal tract 10-12 times their body length. Meat-eaters: have strong hydrochloric acid in stomach to digest meatHerbivores: have stomach acid that is 20 times weaker than that of a meat-eaterHumans: have stomach acid that is 20 times weaker than that of a meat-eater Meat-eaters: salivary glands in mouth not needed to pre-digest grains and fruits.Herbivores: well-developed salivary glands which are necessary to pre-digest grains and fruitsHumans: well-developed salivary glands, which are necessary to pre-digest, grains and fruits Meat-eaters: have acid saliva with no enzyme ptyalin to pre-digest grainsHerbivores: have alkaline saliva with ptyalin to pre-digest grainsHumans: have alkaline saliva with ptyalin to pre-digest grains Based on a chart by A.D. Andrews, Fit Food for Men, (Chicago: American Hygiene Society, 1970)

Why non-veg is not natural to humans?
The animals whose nature is to eat meat, do not cook the meat.They eat raw fresh meat.But human sysem is not suitable to eat meat without cooking.The predators will not eat the dead animal if they do not have the knowledge of how and when the animal died.This is because they want to avoid any bacterial infection caused by eating old meat.Strange that humans tend to eat old, packaged meat and get sick!

"Wouldn't you like live an extra decade or more, reach your goal weight, and live out the rest of your life without chronic disease? Are you interested in preventing heart disease, stroke, cancer, diabetes, osteoporosis, Alzheimer's disease, impotence and obesity. A vegetarian diet can severely reduce your chance of these diseases. Research has proven that vegetarians are 50% less likely to develop heart disease, and they have 40 percent of the cancer rate of meat-eaters.Meat-eating people are nine times more likely to be obese than vegans are. Eating meat, eggs, and dairy products has been strongly linked to osteoporosis, Alzheimer's, asthma, and male impotence. Scientists also found that vegetarians have stronger immune systems than those of us that eat meat. Vegetarians are less susceptible to common diseases like the flu because of this. On average, vegetarians and vegans live six to ten years longer than non-vegetarians.The American Dietic Association said that vegetarians have "lower rates of death from ischemic heart disease; lower blood cholesterol levels, lower blood pressure, and lower rates of hypertension, type 2 diabetes, and prostate and colon cancer"
Dr.Rakesh.S. :
"According to the new developments in medical sciences, vegetarian diet is closer to and is more useful for human nature. It is more scientific for human body. Because of this, people are now adopting vegetarian diet as part of new life-style. It is a fact that the non-vegetarian diet contains cholesterol and saturated fatty acid. These are the root cause of problems like coronary heart disease, cerebro-vascular accidents (strokes), eye diseases and high blood pressure. In a non-vegetarian diet, only 60 % of its content is useful for human body, rest 40 % contains harmful and toxic products. In addition to it, non-vegetarian diet is generally heavy for stomach and produces acidity, which in turn can cause many diseases of gastrointestinal system."
"Question: How does eating meat affect water usage, water pollution and the ocean?Answer: The global effects of meat consumption don’t stop on land. Agriculture also requires water consumption, and animal agriculture is no exception. Animal production consumes an amount of water roughly equivalent to all other uses of water in the United States combined. Besides grains, animals need water to survive and grow until they are slaughtered. One pound of beef requires an input of approximately 2500 gallons of water, whereas a pound of soy requires 250 gallons of water and a pound of wheat only 25 gallons. Meat production is inefficient as it requires the consumption of an extensive amount of resources over many months and years before becoming a usable food product"

"Today, more than ever, the monetary is one of the top advantages of vegetarianism. Everyone is looking at costs!Meat is costly to raise and process, and it wastes a lot of natural resources in comparison to raising plant based foods. If we take meat out of our grocery bill, we will reduce it by approximately half.Medical costs in the United States alone, directly caused by meat consumption, are in the billions of dollars.".
"Are there health advantages to vegetarianism?Of course! In fact, it’s the only healthy
way to eat! A meatless diet is higher in roughage and lower in saturated fats than an animal-based diet. Thus vegetarians are less likely to suffer from heart disease, high cholesterol, obesity, arthritis, and many forms of cancer.A vegetarian enjoys better health by his/her avoidance of the various drugs, chemicals, pesticides and dyes commonly found in meat. Half the nation’s supply of antibiotics is now fed to food-animals. Drugs like penicillin and tetracycline are becoming routinely ingested by factory-farmed animals on a daily basis. Some scientists believe this practice undermining the effectiveness of these drugs to treat human illness.The vegetarian diet also offers a health advantage to the many people in our world who suffer from hunger and malnutrition. It takes ten or more pounds of plant protein to produce one pound of meat protein in grain-fed livestock. By our adopting a vegetarian diet and eating plant protein directly, the world’s food supplies can be extended further to feed a much large population. Wouldn’t it be wonderful to know there were no starving children anywhere in the world? This can be accomplished with vegetarianism.This consideration for other human being has led some people to adopt a vegetarian diet, although most ethical arguments for vegetarianism focus on the treatment of animal".FROM WWW.geocites,com/leehaozhong

toran.sahu said...
Dear KMR Krishnan Sir,Its really a very good thread.I was a Non-vegetarian, I like its taste too much.But Now I am a Vegetarian, It is to going only 5 Months, .And reading this thread, I am feeling really fine.
To eat meat or not to eat meat, India forces the question.
"I’ve always harboured a secret respect for vegetarians. There’s something inherently distasteful about rearing an animal, nurturing it, then killing it so you can eat its flesh. I’ll freely admit I’m a hypocrite, willing to trade the morally right for the merely tasty: I don’t mind doing the eating, so long as somebody else has already done the killing.My brief flirtation with vegetarianism taught me a lot about myself, mostly negative things. It taught me the limits of my willpower, of my sense of adventure, and of my ability to adapt to new cultures. It also gave me an insight into how vegetarians probably feel in carnivorous countries. I left India for Nepal, and when I saw chickens being slaughtered from the window of my hotel room in Pokhara – their throats were cut and they were flung into a plastic bucket on the ground to flap and bleed to death – I felt mildly repelled, but not at all guilty. And I ate chicken that night.I’m now reconciled to being a carnivore. I know eating meat is bad karma, but I can’t help it. I’ll just have to take the risk of being reborn as a battery hen."FROM www.roadjunky .com
''He who desires to augment his own flesh by eating the flesh of other creatures lives in misery in whatever species he may take his birth. Mahabharat 115.47Those high-souled persons who desire beauty, faultlessness of limbs, long life, understanding, mental and physical strength and memory should abstain fromacts of injury. Mahabharat 18.115.8The very name of cow is Aghnya ["not to be killed"], indicating that they should never be slaughtered. Who, then could slay them? Surely, one who kills a cow or abull commits a heinous crime. Mahabharat Shantiparv 262.47The purchaser of flesh performs Hinsa (violence) by his wealth; he who eats flesh does so by enjoying its taste; the killer does Hinsa by actually tying and killing the animal. Thus, there are three forms of killing: he who brings flesh or sends for it, he who cuts off the limbs of an animal, and he who purchases, sells or cooks flesh and eats it -- all of these are to be considered meat-eaters. Mahabharat Anu 115.40He who sees that the Lord of all is ever the same in all that is -- immortal in the field of mortality -- he sees the truth. And when a man sees that the God in himself is the same God in all that is, he hurts not himself by hurting others. Then he goes, indeed, to the highest path. Bhagavad Geeta 13.27-28Ahinsa is the highest Dharm. Ahinsa is the best Tapas. Ahinsa is the greatest gift. Ahinsa is the highest self-control. Ahinsa is the highest sacrifice. Ahinsa is the highest power. Ahinsa is the highest friend. Ahinsa is the highest truth. Ahinsa is the highest teaching. Mahabharat 18.116.37-41What is the good way? It is the path that reflects on how it may avoid killing any creature. Tirukural 324All that lives will press palms together in prayerful adoration of those who refuse to slaughter and savor meat. Tirukural 260What is virtuous conduct? It is never destroying life, for killing leads to every other sin. Tirukural 312, 321Goodness is never one with the minds of these two: one who wields a weapon and one who feasts on a creature's flesh. Tirukural 253 ''(Excerpts from Hinduism Today.)
Why Become Vegetarian?Again, let me state that vegetarianism isn’t for everyone. If you are fanatically devoted to meat (and I was at one time, so I understand), you might not be interested. If you already eat healthy, or you’re not interested in your health, you might not be interested.But there are some reasons, for the rest of us, to consider it (and these are just a few — see these 49 reasons or these 21 reasons for more):Cut the fat. While meat provides a lot of protein, it also provides a ton of fat — especially saturated fat. Which means that by cutting out meat, you’ll be cutting out a lot of bad fat, and replacing it with things that are probably not only lower in fat, but that contain some good fats. This greatly reduces your risk of heart disease, and in fact numerous studies have shown that vegetarians tend to have a lower risk of heart disease, as well as hypertension, diabetes, cancer and other diseases. Read more here. Less food poisoning. Food poisoning gets millions of people each year — and many of them from meat, which is a good breeding ground for harmful bacteria, especially if not stored, prepared or cooked exactly right. Cut out meat and you lower your risk of food poisoning (especially if you also cut out eggs and dairy, but that’s optional). Reduce the suffering. You probably don’t want to hear about the horrific treatment of animals that are raised for food, even before they are slaughtered for our benefit. But suffice it to say, there are great amounts of suffering involved, and by cutting out meat, you are reducing your involvement in that. Read more here. Help the environment. There are actually numerous ways that the meat industry harms the environment, from a waste of our resources (animals raised for food eat enough grain to feed the world), to a waste of fuel, to the pollution caused by their waste matter, and much more. Read more about that here. Help your weight loss. It’s possible to be vegetarian and eat very unhealthy foods, including Coke and fries and fried stuff and pizza and chips. But it’s much more difficult. Studies repeatedly show that vegetarians are slimmer and are less likely to be obese than meat eaters. If you’re trying to lose weight, being a vegetarian can be a good part of your program. Get more nutrition. In general (though not necessarily), vegetarians replace meat with more nutritious foods, such as fruits, vegetables, beans, whole grains, and so on. If you do that, you will be getting more of the nutrients your body needs, giving you better health, less illness, and more energy.
Non-vegetarian food weakens the bones
:American medical practitioner, Dr. A. Watchman
and Dr. D.S.Bernstine have conducted a special study and declared their report. They said that non-vegetarian food weakens the bones gradually and they begin to deteriorate. The vegetarian people have strong bones when compared to non-vegetarians. In the non-vegetarians high quantity of alkaline and salts are excreted through urine, which causes deficiency of these salts in the blood. The blood fulfills the deficiency from the bones. The imbalance reduces the resistance power in the human beings.Wild nature due to consumption of non-vegetarian food:-----------------------------------------------A famous scientist of Japan, Professor Venz has reached the conclusion on the basis of several experiments that non-vegetarian food plays a major role in raising the anger, anxiety, restlessness, hastiness, sexual desire ad criminal mentality. Therefore it is true that minute substances of food makes our mind and the mentality will be pious or passionate depending on the type of food we take.Food problems due to non-vegetarian food:-----------------------------------------------In the developed countries 6 tones of food is given to the cattle in order to produce one ton of meat. American scientist Borg Storm says that the amount of food given to the animals in order to obtain meat is sufficient to subside the hunger of worlds 50 per cent population. When 8 kg of vegetable protein is fed to the animals they produce one kg of meat protein. In the same way one non-vegetarian calorie can be obtained after burning 7 calories of vegetables. This is simply the wastage of protein and calories.Britain's Bernard Vaidyaril says that it is beyond ethics to feed the animals with more than half the quantity of world's food grain in order to obtain meat at a time when millions of people are starving. The same food could be given to them to satisfy their hunger. In order to obtain meat sufficient for the survival of ten people, the land that is used for this purpose the same land can be used for cultivating peas, barley, millets and other food grains then 100 people can survive.Avoiding the consumption of meat can reduce hunger: if the rich western countries stop eating non-vegetarian food then the food problem of the world can be overcome. On one hand the animals are given 40 crores tons of food every year, so that the rich people can eat the meat of these animals and on the other hand due to the deficiency of food grains around 50 crores population of the poor countries dies due to starvation every yearFROM YOGASANDESH.ORG

Topic : Bird Flu, Swine Flu ,……………..--------------------------------Next what ? Goat Flu, Beef Flu, Fish Flu,…., end less list of human greed.Dear HUMAN !We the human creed need just food for survival.Food feed the hunger, which brews in every 6 hours in our stomach as Hydro chloric acid. There are aplenty of vegetarian foods, especially natural greens are available.With the notion of adding more muscle in arms and legs, more and more meat are being eaten. Finally more meat is added to the head than elsewhere. Today’s human race is just short of being called as cannibals, though exceptions on either side are always there.Just two years ago we had the bird flu. Humans discovered that there is certain kind of flu spreading because of birds which can ultimately result in humans’ deaths. So we started culling millions of birds. Honestly I always get this question in my mind – if we are not eating these chickens will there be this much hens? Not at all. We over breed to fill our appetite. There are many endangered species of animals once again due to greed of human felling the forests. None of the species would be endangered if human decided to eat them. To feed ourselves, we would have forced them to produce more.Eating any animal itself is great harm, by overdoing the production cycle, chicken produced more sicks than chicks. One more horrible sight in India is the way chicken are transported, too many tied to a handle bar of an TVS 50 bike their heads hanging next to the wheel. These cruel beings can never be called as Human beings. The chicken will be teaching more lesson to the man(un)kind.Now after two years it is the turn of Pigs or swine’s. Killing or culling has started. Needs has a limit but greed never had a limit. The sight of a Pigs breeding ground will bring you influenza; over fed-immobile or less mobile- is a sitting duck for any disease. How many more pigs we are going to kill?If I request many of my known meat eaters to have some kindness towards animals, they simply reason, even if they stop, many may not stop. No purpose will be solved, so they continue. As if they have all started doing everything together, they wait for everyone to stop. One more category is there; their argument is, if they don’t eat, what will happen to the businesses which are thriving on animals? They will close down, economy will be affected. What an economy of killers?More you eat the meat, more you need to do farming, as most of the animals you eat are vegetarians. They need only greens for survival at least till the meaties eat them off. Thousand of hectares of land is required for producing food for the would be meats. Already greedy men have converted many of the fertile lands in to plots and converting many more. The food prices are skyrocketing. Even for 50Rs. You cannot eat for your full stomach in this 2009. What is going to happen tomorrow? Will we justify cannibalism just because we don’t have food?Wake up enough is enough. Even a lion or a tiger eats only herbivores animal not the carnivore ones. Basic facts are that for the carnivores animals the acids produced are more concentrated than that is produced in human beings, so what digests in their intestine may not fully get digested in ours. For a goat, a tiger at least runs for 20kms in a day, we don’t even walk one km to buy the goat. The chances of burning these over calories doesn’t exist, we end up with excess meat on the belly. Animals teeth are designed for eating meat.Eating more animals, we tend to ignore more human values.Being vegetarian, especially on green vegetables than rice or wheat, makes the whole body more lighter and mind more brighter. All the ancient philosophies have told and modern science is also accepting to the fact the vegetarians are less harmful than a non vegetarian. More flesh & blood inside human makes us crueler. So violence can be brought down with more becoming vegetarians.World will be more peaceful with more vegetarians around. Sure the animal world will be more pleasant, nature will be thriving.Go Green. Your mind is very strong than your flesh. So work for making your mind more & more strong. Peace will pervade everywhere and no war to kill fellow living things.Lead a peaceful, happy & prosperous life. Become a vegetarian now.Be a responsible citizen. It is our society. We only make it.S. Krishna feedbacks by email : -- Be a Responsible :
In olden days the slaughter of animals for food was done in a hidden place;not in public.The slaughter house had a vetenary dictor to certify the healthiness of the animal and a sanitary inspector to supervise the hygeine. Now-a-days all rules have been dropped in to the drainage.Every bus stop has an unlicensed mutton shop where a goat's carcass hangs upside down and another crying live-goat pitiably view all this cruelty!The mutton shopwaala throws the unwanted portion of the meat on to the street. Stray dogs, crows fight to grab the pieces of mutton.The vehicle riders ,if not careful have to get involved in an accident.
They say,the vegetarian food is not having the full and wholesome protein.This is not correct.The vegtarian food has the protein which is required for human beings. May be man might have needed more protein when he was doing lots of physical labour and the machines and gadgets were not found. In the modern days of escalators and lifts, mixie and grinder,washing machines, protein for the grown ups is sufficiently supplied by veg food.So break the myth that we need non-veg for protien
Kerala state is a big market for beef.In Tamilnadu goat mutton is popular and cows mutton,beef is not very popular. One paricular religious group of foreign origin only takes beef. But in the neighbouring Kerala beef is popular. In our Thanjavur Friday night is the day of shandy for cattle.On the next morning we witness the pathetic cows being transported to Kerala for slughtering. The animals are made to stand for the long journey in a crowded open lorry.It is a horrible scene.We call ourselves human and the animals brutes. I think the names should be the otherway around.We are brutes by action.They are human by their usefulness.
--------------------------Swami Vivekanada was living when he had to witness many a famine under British rule.The Britishers deliberately stopped production of food stuff and forced people to produce cotton instead,to feed Lancashire mills. With the result artificial famine condition prevailed. Seeing Indians' emaciated look Swamiji, out of compassion, expressed the opinionthat Indians may eat anything,veg-or non veg to survive and get some enrgy to workThat way he was opposed to 'veg alone' concept.Here I present you with his opinion wriiten in a letter form to Maharajah of Khetri on 22nd May 1893 :"....On our way we had the company of Mr.Ramnath, the charan Headmaster of the Jeypore noble’s school. He and I had a bout on my first coming out of Khetri years ago, about vegetarianism. He had in the meantime got hold of some American writers and pounced upon me with his arguments from them. His author, he said, has proved to his satisfaction that the human digestive organs including the teeth are exactly like those of the cow. Therefore, man is designed by nature to be a vegetarian animal. He is a very good and nice gentleman and I did not want to disturb his confidence in the American hobbyist but one thing was on the tip of my tongue—If our digestive apparatus is exactly like that of a cow—we ought and must be able to eat and digest grass. In that case poor Indians are fools to die of starvation in famine times while their natural food, grass, is so abundant, and your Highness’ servants are fools to serve you while they have only to get up the nearest hillock and get a bellyful of grass instead of undergoing all the trouble of serving others!!! Grand American discovery indeed!!! Only I hope the holy dungs of such human cows may become of great use to the wonderful American author and his Indian disciple. Amen. So much for the cow-human theory...."With reverence to swamiji, I tell the reply to convince him why humans are only vegetarians.If not grass, humans can take many vegetables raw without cooking. The list of vegatables, fruits, nuts which humans can consume withoutcooking is enormous.In contrast, humans can not take any of the non-veg stuff including Bengali fish with out cooking.Carnivorous animals eat raw flesh. Why man cooks flesh?That shows non-veg is not natural food for man.what swamiji was advocating was aapath dharma.When people were starving,let them eat whatever they received.But that can not be a general arguement at normal times.Hope I do not in any way disrespctful to Swamiji. I hold him in very high esteem.KMR.KRISHNAN

Saturday, July 18, 2009


In India the belief that dead people take rebirth-reincarnate-is widely prevalent.when a new child is born in the family, close to the death of an elder, people invariably remark that the grandpa or
grandma has taken rebirth.we also believe in karma theory. the sufferings or pleasure we experience in this birth are the fruits of our bad/ good actions in our previous birth.the souls get their parentage according to their karma in the previous birth. in astrology the 5th place is called poorva punya sthana(place of the good acts of previous birth) The Asians are generally belivers in reincarnation.

one of our readers expressed her experience like this: Dear Sir,
This is a general question about reincarnation and also its a query about my personal experience.My Husband's grandfather(mother's father) aged 87(at 2004) was residing with us...He was very adamant and stubborn to people but was very loving towards me and my husband....On one instance he shouted me in front of the family members asking me whether i was on birth control pill....Then he understood and from then on had been very very loving to both of me......He had dementia and could remember only his grandson (my husband) and me at the time of his death......He passed away in front of us on April 12th 2004.....I took a flower from his garland and kept it on my stomach and prayed that he should come back to me as a baby.....after 3 months i had a dream where i literally saw him melting into liquid and entering my body....To our surprise I conceived the same month...My daughter was born on March 23, 2005 at 08:09am.....Sir, i would like to know whether this is related with my inlaws side they donot give thithi nor they worship is because of me we r doing Kuladevia motherinlaw has a strong disbelief towards god....I read your article "Prayer to ancestors on 21st July"....Is that ok for him or anything more needed???????

Dr. Stevenson has devoted the last forty years to the scientific documentation of past life memories of children from all over the world. He has over 3000 cases in his files. Many people, including skeptics and scholars, agree that these cases offer the best evidence yet for reincarnation.

Dr. Stevenson's credentials are impeccable. He is a medical doctor and had many scholarly papers to his credit before he began paranormal research. He is the former head of the Department of Psychiatry at the University of Virginia, and now is Director of the Division of Personality Studies at the University of Virginia."


Reincarnation research is going on throughout the world.Give in google search "reincarnation"or "near death experience" Many topics open up.
Read them. At least 100 web sites discuss this regularly.


Thursday, July 16, 2009








Saturday, July 11, 2009

Vivekananda's experience with "prasna" jothidam

Unpublished letter of Swami Vivekananda
One letter written by Swami Vivekananda to Maharaja Ajit Singh of Khetri were recently found among old papers in the record room of the Khetri Sub-divisional Officer’s office (Jhunjhunu District, Rajasthan, India). The subject is interestingly about 'prasna jothida'.Read on and record your comment.
Madras the 15th February [1893]

Your Highness,

Two things I am telling your Highness. One—a very wonderful phenomenon I have seen in a village called Kumbakonam, and another about myself.

In the said village lives a man of the Chetty caste, generally passing for an astrologer. I, with two other young men, went to see him. He was said to tell about anything a man thinks of. So, I wanted to put him to the test. Two months ago, I dreamt that my mother was dead and I was very anxious to know about her. My second was whether what my Guru had told me was right. The third was a test-question—a part of the Buddhistic mantra, in Tibetan tongue. These questions I determined upon, two days before going to this Govinda Chetty. Another young man had one of his sisters-in-law given poison to, by some unknown hand, from which she recovered. But he wanted to know the author of that delivery.
When we first saw him, the fellow was almost ferocious. He said that some Europeans came to see [him] with the Dewan of Mysore and that since then through their ‘Dristee Dosham’ he had got fever and that he could not give us a seance then and only if we paid him 10 Rs., he would consent to tell us our ‘prasnas’. The young men with me of course were ready to pay down his fees. But he goes to his private room and immediately comes back and says to me that if I gave him some ashes to cure him of his fever he would consent to give us a seance. Of course I told him that I do not boast of any power of curing diseases but he said, ‘That does not matter, only I want [the ash]’. So, I consented and he took us to the private room and, taking a sheet of paper, wrote something upon it and gave it over to one of us and made me sign it and keep it into the pocket of one of my companions. Then he told me point blank, ‘Why you, a Sannyasi, are thinking upon your mother?’ I answered that even the great Shankaracharya would take care of his mother; and he said ‘She is all right and I have written her name in that paper in the possession of your friend’ and then went on saying, ‘Your Guru is dead. Whatever he has told you, you must believe, for he was a very very great man,’ and went on giving me a description of my Guru which was most wonderful and then he said ‘What more you want to know about your Guru?’ I told him ‘If you can give me his name I would be satisfied’, and he said, ‘Which name? A Sannyasi gets different sorts of names’. I answered, ‘The name by which he was known to the public’, and says, ‘The wonderful name, I have already written that. And you wanted to know about a mantra in Tibetan, that is also written in that paper.’ And, he then told me to think of anything in any language and tell him, I told him ‘Om Namo BhagavateVasudevaya’, and he said, ‘That is also written in the paper in possession of your friend. Now take it out and see’. And Lo! Wonder! They were all there as he said and even my mother’s name was there!! It began thus—your mother of such and such name is all right. She is very holy and good, but she is feeling your separation like death and within two years she shall die; so if you want to see her, it must be within two years.
Next it was written—your Guru Ramakrishna Paramahamsa is dead but he lives in Sukshma, i.e., ethereal body, and is watching over you, etc. and then it was written ‘Lamala capsechua’, in Tibetan, and then at last was written ‘In conformation to what I have written, I give you also this mantra which you would give me after one hour after my writing; ‘Om Namo Bhagavate etc.’; and so he was equally successful with my friends. Then I saw people coming from distant villages and as soon as he sees them he says—‘Your name is such and such and you come from such and such village for this purpose’. By the time he was reading me, he toned down very much and said—‘I won’t take money from you. On the other hand, you must take some “seva” from me’. And I took some milk at his house and he brought over his whole family to bow down to me and I touched some ‘vibhutee’ brought by him and then I asked him the source of his wonderful powers. First he would not say, but after a while he came to me [and] said—‘Maharaj, it is “siddhi of mantras” through the “sahaya” of “Devi”.’ Verily, there are more things on heaven and earth Horatio than your philosophy ever dreamt of—Shakespeare.
The second is regarding me. Here is a zamindar of Ramnath, now staying in Madras. He is going to send me over to Europe and, as you are already aware of, I have a great mind to see those places. So I have determined to take this opportunity of making a tour in Europe and America. But I can’t do anything without asking your Highness, the only friend on Earth I have.
So kindly give your opinion about it. I only want to make a short tour in those places. One thing I am certain of, that I am [an] instrument in the hands [of] a holy and superior power. Myself, I have no peace, am burning literally day and night, but somehow or other, wherever I go hundreds and, in some [places] as in Madras, thousands would come to me day and night and would be cured of their skepticism and unbelief but I—! I am always unhappy!! Thy will be done!! Therefore, I don’t know what this power requires of me, to be done in Europe. I cannot but obey. ‘Thy will be done’!! There is no escape.
I congratulate your Highness on the birth of a son and heir. May the infant prince be quiet like his most noble father and may the Lord shower his blessings always on him and his parents.
So I am going over in two or three weeks to Europe. I can’t say anything as to the future of the body. Only I pray to your Highness if it be proper to take some care of my mother that she does not starve.
I would be highly obliged to get a reply soon, and pray your Highness to keep the latter part of this letter, i.e., my going over to England etc., confidential.
May you be blessed all your life, you and yours, is the prayer that is day and night offered up by, Vivekananda
C/o. M.Bhattacharya Esq.
Assistant Accountant General
Mt. St. Thome,