Vivekananda's experience with "prasna" jothidam

Unpublished letter of Swami Vivekananda
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One letter written by Swami Vivekananda to Maharaja Ajit Singh of Khetri were recently found among old papers in the record room of the Khetri Sub-divisional Officer’s office (Jhunjhunu District, Rajasthan, India). The subject is interestingly about 'prasna jothida'.Read on and record your comment.
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Madras the 15th February [1893]

Your Highness,

Two things I am telling your Highness. One—a very wonderful phenomenon I have seen in a village called Kumbakonam, and another about myself.

In the said village lives a man of the Chetty caste, generally passing for an astrologer. I, with two other young men, went to see him. He was said to tell about anything a man thinks of. So, I wanted to put him to the test. Two months ago, I dreamt that my mother was dead and I was very anxious to know about her. My second was whether what my Guru had told me was right. The third was a test-question—a part of the Buddhistic mantra, in Tibetan tongue. These questions I determined upon, two days before going to this Govinda Chetty. Another young man had one of his sisters-in-law given poison to, by some unknown hand, from which she recovered. But he wanted to know the author of that delivery.
When we first saw him, the fellow was almost ferocious. He said that some Europeans came to see [him] with the Dewan of Mysore and that since then through their ‘Dristee Dosham’ he had got fever and that he could not give us a seance then and only if we paid him 10 Rs., he would consent to tell us our ‘prasnas’. The young men with me of course were ready to pay down his fees. But he goes to his private room and immediately comes back and says to me that if I gave him some ashes to cure him of his fever he would consent to give us a seance. Of course I told him that I do not boast of any power of curing diseases but he said, ‘That does not matter, only I want [the ash]’. So, I consented and he took us to the private room and, taking a sheet of paper, wrote something upon it and gave it over to one of us and made me sign it and keep it into the pocket of one of my companions. Then he told me point blank, ‘Why you, a Sannyasi, are thinking upon your mother?’ I answered that even the great Shankaracharya would take care of his mother; and he said ‘She is all right and I have written her name in that paper in the possession of your friend’ and then went on saying, ‘Your Guru is dead. Whatever he has told you, you must believe, for he was a very very great man,’ and went on giving me a description of my Guru which was most wonderful and then he said ‘What more you want to know about your Guru?’ I told him ‘If you can give me his name I would be satisfied’, and he said, ‘Which name? A Sannyasi gets different sorts of names’. I answered, ‘The name by which he was known to the public’, and says, ‘The wonderful name, I have already written that. And you wanted to know about a mantra in Tibetan, that is also written in that paper.’ And, he then told me to think of anything in any language and tell him, I told him ‘Om Namo BhagavateVasudevaya’, and he said, ‘That is also written in the paper in possession of your friend. Now take it out and see’. And Lo! Wonder! They were all there as he said and even my mother’s name was there!! It began thus—your mother of such and such name is all right. She is very holy and good, but she is feeling your separation like death and within two years she shall die; so if you want to see her, it must be within two years.
Next it was written—your Guru Ramakrishna Paramahamsa is dead but he lives in Sukshma, i.e., ethereal body, and is watching over you, etc. and then it was written ‘Lamala capsechua’, in Tibetan, and then at last was written ‘In conformation to what I have written, I give you also this mantra which you would give me after one hour after my writing; ‘Om Namo Bhagavate etc.’; and so he was equally successful with my friends. Then I saw people coming from distant villages and as soon as he sees them he says—‘Your name is such and such and you come from such and such village for this purpose’. By the time he was reading me, he toned down very much and said—‘I won’t take money from you. On the other hand, you must take some “seva” from me’. And I took some milk at his house and he brought over his whole family to bow down to me and I touched some ‘vibhutee’ brought by him and then I asked him the source of his wonderful powers. First he would not say, but after a while he came to me [and] said—‘Maharaj, it is “siddhi of mantras” through the “sahaya” of “Devi”.’ Verily, there are more things on heaven and earth Horatio than your philosophy ever dreamt of—Shakespeare.
The second is regarding me. Here is a zamindar of Ramnath, now staying in Madras. He is going to send me over to Europe and, as you are already aware of, I have a great mind to see those places. So I have determined to take this opportunity of making a tour in Europe and America. But I can’t do anything without asking your Highness, the only friend on Earth I have.
So kindly give your opinion about it. I only want to make a short tour in those places. One thing I am certain of, that I am [an] instrument in the hands [of] a holy and superior power. Myself, I have no peace, am burning literally day and night, but somehow or other, wherever I go hundreds and, in some [places] as in Madras, thousands would come to me day and night and would be cured of their skepticism and unbelief but I—! I am always unhappy!! Thy will be done!! Therefore, I don’t know what this power requires of me, to be done in Europe. I cannot but obey. ‘Thy will be done’!! There is no escape.
I congratulate your Highness on the birth of a son and heir. May the infant prince be quiet like his most noble father and may the Lord shower his blessings always on him and his parents.
So I am going over in two or three weeks to Europe. I can’t say anything as to the future of the body. Only I pray to your Highness if it be proper to take some care of my mother that she does not starve.
I would be highly obliged to get a reply soon, and pray your Highness to keep the latter part of this letter, i.e., my going over to England etc., confidential.
May you be blessed all your life, you and yours, is the prayer that is day and night offered up by, Vivekananda
C/o. M.Bhattacharya Esq.
Assistant Accountant General
Mt. St. Thome,
Madras

ASTROLOGICAL PREDICTIONS CONTINUED JULY'09 PART-II

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PRAYER TO ANCESTORS ON 21ST JULY 2009

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Tuesday, 07 July 2009
Newsletter from Indian Institute of Scientific Heritage
(by IISH Communication Team, Published on : )
Karkitaka Vavu Pithru Tharpanam On 21st July 2009 - Mantra and Meaning (by IISH Communication Team, published Tuesday, 30 June 2009 14:19)
Dear Family Member,
We request you all, (whether you are Hindu, Christian , Muslim or atheist ) to chant this mantra and offer little flower, water and a sincere devoted prayer on 21st July for your forefathers who gave you your body and life. They gave you the opportunity to come to this world and enjoy. Wherever you are, which ever part of the world you are chant this mantra and silently pray for a minimum five minutes..
Manthra and its meaning for the pithru tharpana to be held on 21st July, during Karkitaka vavu/new moon day (karkitaka amaavasy)
Aabrahmano ye pitru vamsa jaathaa maathu thaththaa vamsa bhavaa madeeyaa: Vamsa dwayesmin mama daasa bhootha bruthyaa thathiva aasritha sevakaascha Mithraani sakhya pasavascha vruskshaa drushttaascha adrushtaascha kruthopakaara Janmaanthare ye mama sangathaascha thebhya swayam pinda balim dadaami Maathru vamsey mruthaaayescha pithruvamse thathaiva cha Guru swasura bandhoonaam ye chaanye baandhvaa mruthaa Ye may kule luptha pindaa putra daara vivarjitha Kriyaa lopa hathaaschaiva jaathyanthaa pankavasthathaa Viroopaa aamagarbhaascha jnaathaa ajnaathaa kule mama Bhoomou datthena balinaa thrupthaayaanthu paraam gathim Atheetha kula koteenaam saptha dweepa nivaaseenaam Praaneenaam udakam dattham akshayyam upthishtathu Avasaaneeyarghyamidam
Meaning of the above manthra
In this world those who were born in the clan of my father and mother And all those who are related to me directly or indirectly Those who were my servants for the last two janmas All those who served and helped me and depended on me All those who were my friends and associates All those plants and animals whom I depended for my life All those who supported me directly or indirectly All those who associated with me for the past many janmas For all of them I myself offer this pinda, flower and water and prayer For all those who passed away from the kula of my mother And also from the kula of my father, gurus, relatives and in laws For all those who were not fortunate to receive the pinda in the past For all those who suffered without the support of wife/husband and children For all those who could not do good to others due to many reasons For all those who were borne, lived and died in poverty For all those who were ugly and also who died prematurely For all those who died in the womb of mother without seeing the world For all known and unknown relatives of mine lived and died For them too I offer this prayer , pinda , water and gingely with tulasi I offer all these on this earth for making them immortal and happy in their own world For all those who were living and for all the living creatures and living beings Existed /lived on the seven continents for many million years I offer this pinda and water for the happiness of their soul to rest in peace Let them be happy in their own world blessing the world Let me offer once again a drop of water to you Oh ! my forefathers !

Inform your friends , relatives and all those who are connected with you to come and experience doing the pithru smarana in the spiritual research centre of Indian Institute of Scientific Heritage, Mazhuvanchery Mahadeva Temple, at Mazhuvanchery, near Kechery, in the Highway side to Trissur- Guruvayoor/Kunnamkulam on 21st July from 6.00 am to 11.30 am ( each batch 35 minutes)
Dr. N. Gopalakrishnan,Scientist & Hon.Director,IISH, will be leading this pithru karma by explaining the meaning and messages of each part of the aachara. If not possible to come to this place, we shall send you the brochure which explains the ritual. Perform the ritual wherever you are with your family , friends and devotees or yourself.
Pre registration or pre information is not needed, you can come to the temple after taking bath from your home..

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Astrological predictions(continued) JULY '09

Continue your questions here. I shall answer only here. Many post in "predictions came true" column. Some send to my e mail id. Some post in the Orkut. I am not able to answer every where.

So I have decided to answer here only.

Remember this is a free column.It is not possible to spend much time in very deep study of the individual horoscopes. Every one wants to know the day to day happenings of the future. I do not think that is humanly possible or any one to say that.

I am surprised to find many youngsters want to know weather their marriage is "love"marriage or "arranged" marriage .Love will come after ascertaining from horoscope reading?Will it not be spontaneousl?If you want horoscope matching to fall in love,what sort of love is it? May be "commercial" love!

One youngster aged 19 asked me in my e mail id, when will he fall in love? See he is aged 19. The question should have been about his study.Job etc.,is it not? Wrong priorities and abuse of my holy service!

Very embarassing questions are asked. One girl will get married to some one else; still have relationship with the lover! For this the boy wants horoscopical permission!And he wants me to confirm weatehr this illicit relation can sustain?! What a nonsense! I told him that no astrlogical reading is necessary for this.All the moral, ethical, social,legal problems will crop up if he continues that illegitimate relationship.

Why I am telling these , is to impress upon you to think many times before placing a question.



Some people go on asking one by one. If I answer one question they will come out with two.



The future is hidden from us. It is impossible to say every minute detail.Horoscope must be seen only when we are in trouble or confused about the future course of action. The horoscope act as a divine guidance.To postpone the act, the time for action when we will make success, getiing cured etc., has to be checked with the horoscope.

Some try to test my knowledge.They either want their knowledge tested or test me.



Ok. This is my sharing with you.You too share Good luck to all.